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Post by athena on Jul 11, 2009 7:13:49 GMT -5
Hi! Im new to these forums. Little about me, Im originally from Maine, but moved to England last year. I am 43 years old, and my husband and I are amateur ghost hunters. Only one we've done so far is the Falstaff in Stratford Upon Avon, England. But we have a ton more planned in the fall. This is my first post I took this picture a couple years ago in The Great Dining Room at Warwick Castle. Used a digital camera, can't remember if I used a flash or not. The other 2 pictures of this dining room were out of focus and therefore my father in law discarded them before I could tell him not to, so I could have a comparison LOL I will let ppl pull from it what they want (translated: I wont point out what I see, I want to see others opinions first).
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Post by ladyvalkyrie37 on Jul 11, 2009 10:47:50 GMT -5
I don't see anything other than the effects of taking a picture while moving the camera up and down. I've done this before with my own camera. You can get some awesome effects. One time I got a full moon to look like a UFO. One time I got my youngest son's laughing face to look like something demonic. Sorry, I know it sounds weird, but I'm into amature photography and I like to goof around.
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Post by chriscook71 on Jul 11, 2009 11:10:02 GMT -5
I am a photographer by trade, and I see this all the time.
Slow shutter speed + shiny objects + unsteady camera = instant "ghosts"
I usually refrain from commenting on photos because my comments are usually not what the people want to hear. But, in this case I just wanted to try to help you understand what was going on in this photo so you can pick it out when it happens again (and it will). I have seen this exact phenomena posted here several times, but have never commented on it. I hope you take it how it was intended....to help.
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Post by athena on Jul 11, 2009 11:51:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses While I agree with most of what you've said, that there is alot of motion blur (even though Im sure I was pretty steady - this is the only photo that came out like this, all my other ones were steady, because I have a 'shake minimizer' on my camera). However, the one thing that intrigues me is the 'face' of an old man in the forefront, left. Kind of like Shakespeare almost LOL
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Post by mamanyt on Jul 11, 2009 17:52:08 GMT -5
It really does seem to be lighing effects. I DO see the face that you are talking about, but the "eyes" are formed from the flower arrangement at the rear of the table that matches the one in the forground, and the "nose" is...well, they LOOK like glass goblets with either taper candles or rolled napkins in them...they are visible all down both sides of the table. I believe the rest of the head and shoulders to be just light artifacts, and the shape very much influenced by the appearance of eyes and a nose. But it IS cool looking. You should SEE some of the stuff I got on a snowy night when my hands were shaking...including "lightning" striking a tree in front of my house. Just street lights, but the effect was remarkable.
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Post by Jamie on Jul 11, 2009 17:54:30 GMT -5
Isee an old man or woman with BIG eyes kinda like bug eyes but as was said with all the elements in this photo hard to say if it is really a ghost are a reflection of light playing tricks. Cool photo though.
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Post by iheartchaucer on Jul 14, 2009 6:53:03 GMT -5
I am a photographer by trade, and I see this all the time. Slow shutter speed + shiny objects + unsteady camera = instant "ghosts" I usually refrain from commenting on photos because my comments are usually not what the people want to hear. But, in this case I just wanted to try to help you understand what was going on in this photo so you can pick it out when it happens again (and it will). I have seen this exact phenomena posted here several times, but have never commented on it. I hope you take it how it was intended....to help. Chris, what camera do you use/can you recommend?
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Post by iheartchaucer on Jul 14, 2009 6:56:29 GMT -5
It's an interesting photo and the effect is like smoke (after a fire). I also think I see a creepy, balding man's face looking back at me (in the area of the large painting in the background).
Was this the only photo like this? I would say if you can reproduce this effect then you can certainly rule out paranormal and rule in camera issues (which is probably what it is).
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by athena on Jul 14, 2009 7:10:30 GMT -5
It's an interesting photo and the effect is like smoke (after a fire). I also think I see a creepy, balding man's face looking back at me (in the area of the large painting in the background). Was this the only photo like this? I would say if you can reproduce this effect then you can certainly rule out paranormal and rule in camera issues (which is probably what it is). Thanks for sharing. Yes, this was the only photo like this. Ive got the album online, just going to try to get it onto a photo sharing site, then Ill post the link. Like I said, I had an 'anti shake' feature on the digital camera
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Post by chriscook71 on Jul 14, 2009 17:20:25 GMT -5
Even if the other photos don't turn out like this, there is an obvious explanation for it. And keep in mind, I am a photographer and I have to deal with these issues all the time. When you point your camera at a "scene" the middle focus indicator is usually the one the camera uses to "meter". In every scene, your metering spot will be different. If you meter on a bright object you will get a completely different effect than if you meter on a dark object, and this effects your shutter speed. Slow shutter speed (even when the camera has anti-shake software as part of it's firmware) can, and will, cause these blurs. If you trace all the "smoke" in this photo you can trace it back to an object. The candle sticks are a large part of what caused the smoky streaks. Again, just trying to be of help here.
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Post by chriscook71 on Jul 14, 2009 17:23:17 GMT -5
In this photo the dark areas of the painting on the wall are likely what caused your camera to meter dark, causing a low shutter speed and the streaky effect in the photo. Am I saying there is absolutely nothing paranormal in your photo? Nope. I'm just trying to explain what the streaks are...the "smoke" as someone called it. I think if we are all educated on these things we can more easily debunk things in the field and help keep our evidence more convincing. Do you see what I am saying? I hope you don't take me the wrong way (sometimes people do) but my advice is meant in a helpful way.
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