Actual real physical evidence?

[GhostBreakers]

I am wondering if anyone out there has had a ghost hunt or investigation or even heard of one that produced hard physical evidence?

I have been working a case for several months now and there is a claim of hard physical evidence and I have recorded samples into evidence.
Now I am skeptical but only to a point at this time as I am aware of another claim of the same type evidence in another case claimed by someone else.

Sorry, I don't want to reveal what kind of physical evidence I have as yet. Reason is I don't want to give people any preconceived notions.

Anyone out there know of anything similar.

[lowbattery71]

As far as I can tell there is no definitive evidence at all. I've seen some very interesting data and witnessed some first hand, but without being able to know for sure what is behind that evidence 100% it's impossible to say there is empirical and undeniable proof. Have you been able to get teh same results over and over at the same location?

Looking forward to hearing more about your experience and evidence as you post on it.

[GhostBreakers]

I am speaking along the lines of an apport but not involving a poltergeist.

[GhostBreakers]

This is about a possible Apport or asport. For those who are not familiar with the terms, basically an Apport is supposed to be the paranormal transference of an article from one place to another, or an appearance of an article from an unknown source. Not necessarily eye witnessed. For a visual think of the scene in Poltergeist where the watches etc, fell out of nowhere. It is usually a phenomenon associated with poltergeist activity, thus the movie using it. An asport is the transference of a small object from a known location to an unknown location via paranormal means.

Such is not the case with mine and my theory although similar goes along with a possible scientific phenomenon .

My case involves the finding of blood. Or should I say supposed blood. I say supposed because I have not tested it yet. I have seen it, photographed it and taken samples for testing. It is a reoccurring phenomena, always in the same area of the home. This is aside from the normal bumps in the night, etc.

The only reason I am looking into this and not passing it to another closer group (it’s 4 hours away from me) is because of another incident that supposed to have happened in Gettysburg some time back involving blood. In the Gettysburg case it only happened once.

That is the reason for the question. More to follow...

Have any of you experienced or heard of this happening, outside of movies?

[lowbattery71]

Have you tried applying hydrogen peroxide to the suspect liquid? If it's blood it will foam up instantly.

[GhostBreakers]

Thanks for the tip. Although you are correct, hydrogen peroxide will effervesce when applied to other things too.

So, I am going to conduct a presumptive test for blood called the Kastle-Meyer Test. It does include hydrogen peroxide but two other chemicals also.

It's a relatively simple test but pretty conclusive. I should be able to complete the testing next week after I get one of the chemicals I need. I will post the results upon completion.

[roestman]

Hello GhostBreakers
You can also use Fluorescein, Luminol. I would not suggest using any testing solutions on the area of occurrence for fear of permanent contamination, I’m sure you already thought of that. Have you tested for any splatter affect using a UV light? Does it just appear as a puddle area? Does it re-appear in the same small area? If in puddle or droplet form and in same small area, you will have to see from which direction it appears (above or below). Just lay down clear plastic sheet and wait and see which side of the plastic it appears.
I ran into something similar years ago, it was clear liquid in small puddle form that would just appear. The plastic test told me that it appeared from below not from above the plastic. After testing the flooring I discovered that the wood planking was saturated with water which originated from the outside air conditioner. Pressure produced by walking in certain areas of the floor caused the flooring to squeeze together producing the accumulation of water. A side note, APPORT and ASPORT are words that no one really agrees on. You can check from one site to the next and get 4 different definitions. The words where always used in conjunction with mediums and seances.

[GhostBreakers]

I am trying to go as inexpensive as I can for now and Luminol although widely used will react with other substances also.
You are correct I don’t want to contaminate the area in question but the area affords testing in spots without compromising the whole area. I have also done a check around the immediate area and one of the interesting points is that there is no spatter. In fact it appears on a decorative plant above the floor and nowhere else although there was one instance where there was a few drops on the floor near the plant but not under it. I used a UV light but as you know, blood does not glow under UV but appears black as do many other things so that was inconclusive. I am conducting a formal investigation so I have all the time I need and will get to the bottom of it.

As far as Apport and Asport I know what you mean. They too are just like other words used in the paranormal field like Pareidolia & Apophenia. Although being interpreted differently by some they will eventually catch on as intended I think.
I contacted Merriam Webster and was told as time goes on and the words are used more and more they have a better likelyhood of being accepted and placed in the dictionary. That will take care of interpretation.
For now some of us just use them for making things a little easier for people to understand. Most people are on board with the one definition.

[stevedmvparanormal]

I have never encountered anything quite like that before, but I have heard stories dealing with it. I have experienced an object displacement on an investigation once, involving a piece of my own equipment. I was taking EMF readings in a child's bedroom that was considered a hot spot for activity. I had my digital camera in hand, but felt I was carrying too much equipment. I set the camera on a closet shelf so I could take more readings. The investigator with me witnessed me put it there. We left the room for a few minutes to join the rest of the group in the other room. Later I went back to get the camera and it was not on the shelf. It was sitting on top of a rocking horse on the other side of the room I know for a fact that I did not set it there, because we were using the rocking horse as a prop or trigger object earlier. That was the one and only time I have witnessed an object displacement.